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The Canadian Press

Date: Monday Oct. 11, 2010 4:38 PM ET

OTTAWA — Statistics Canada, already reeling from the long-form census debacle, is chopping at least five surveys after being ordered to find $7 million in savings.

The beleaguered agency plans to drop a pair of environmental surveys, a health report and two sets of business statistics, along with other measures to meet budgetary demands from the Conservative government.

"If we keep going down this path ... we are at serious risk of eroding the quality of our statistics to unacceptable levels," Munir Sheikh, then chief statistician, warned in a May 31 letter to Treasury Board weeks before he quit his post over the long-form census controversy.

"Our collections systems are becoming outdated, we have less than optimal levels of automation of our processes and we suffer from a lack of proper documentation that can be risky."

The dropped surveys, as well as cuts in the amount of analysis conducted by the world-renowned agency, have already trimmed more than $1 million, but the bulk of the savings will come in the following two years.

Sheikh said the agency for too long has dealt with budgetary pressures by carrying out work more efficiently rather than eliminating work altogether.

"Eliminating less important programs, we have not been successful at all," he wrote to Michelle d'Auray, secretary of the Treasury Board. "This is because every time such an item is identified, we come under pressure to reverse our decision."

The letter, along with other documents outlining the StatsCan budget crunch, were obtained by The Canadian Press under the Access to Information Act.

The agency's money woes deepened last week when Treasury Board President Stockwell Day announced a government-wide deal with the Public Service Alliance of Canada for wage increases of 5.3 per cent over the next three years.

The deal with several of PSAC's bargaining units still must be ratified. But all departments and agencies -- including StatsCan -- have been told to find room within existing budgets to pay for wage increases rather than expect additional funds.

The agency also bargains directly with 1,750 interviewers it employs. The deal with this PSAC unit expires in December next year and one background document from StatsCan says "we hope to negotiate wage rate increases of 0%."

Agency spokesman Peter Frayne, however, denied there was any such negotiating strategy.

Chopping the five surveys is expected to trim some $4 million, while cutting the amount of analysis is worth another $1.5 million. Frayne cautioned that if outside funds become available, the work might be revived.

"At this point, no alternative sources of funding have been confirmed that would offset any of the proposed analytical or survey program reductions, although this remains a possibility," he said in an email.

The ditched surveys are: the Industrial Pollutant Release Survey, and the Quarterly Energy Use and Greenhouse Gas Emissions Survey, both pilot projects; the National Population Health Survey; the Survey of the Suppliers of Business Financing; and the Survey on Financing of Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises.

Sheikh's letter said the two environmental surveys lack support from Environment Canada, and the rest are covered to a certain extent by other data.

Matthew Bramley of the Pembina Institute said he was not yet aware of the pilot environmental surveys, but said the agency might have been trying to respond to criticisms that a similar Environment Canada survey contained unreliable data.

The agency was dealt a blow this year when cabinet decided to dump the mandatory long-form census scheduled for next year, replacing it with a voluntary survey. Tony Clement, the minister responsible for Statistics Canada, said the long-form was an unnecessary invasion of privacy and that many ordinary Canadians object to it -- though no clear evidence for the claim has yet been produced.

The census is StatsCan's most important project, and Sheikh chafed at erroneous claims by Clement that the agency viewed the survey as nearly equivalent to the mandatory census.

"I want to take this opportunity to comment on a technical statistical issue which has become the subject of media discussion ... the question of whether a voluntary survey can become a substitute for a mandatory census," Sheikh wrote in his resignation letter July 21. "It can not."

Statistics Canada was originally given $630 million to carry out the May 2011 census, including the mandatory short and long forms. After cancellation of the mandatory long-form census, that budget was split -- $550 million for the short-form and $80 million for the voluntary National Household Survey, which a broad range of critics say will produce unreliable data, and under-represent the poor and marginal.

To alleviate those concerns, Industry Canada officials said StatsCan would receive an additional $30 million for helping to improve the response rate. But the agency says it has not received any extra money.

"The government has not approved additional funding at this time," Frayne said.

Officials at Industry Canada were not immediately available for comment.

Statistics Canada's 2010-2011 budget, not including the special census fund and money from selling its data, is $407 million. The agency earns about $100 million each year from sales.

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Ken Durham
said

Obviously there is a lot of waste at StatsCan...the retired leader states that himself: The now retired Sheikh's letter said the two environmental surveys lack support from Environment Canada, and the rest are covered to a certain extent by other data. Millions of dollars will be saved by eliminating useless surveys. Looks like he knew that wasting tax payer dollars was about to catch up with him. And it also proves that the 'three blind mice alliance' want to bring back some of the waste in a pathetic attempt to win some political points.


Richard in New Brunswick
said

This isn't a surprise. Governments these days simply cannot afford to have a reputable agency such as StatsCan running around like a loose cannon telling people the TRUTH. One incremental step after another towards a closed society like our great "friend" China. What a laugh. We think we're going to influence their changeover to our freedoms, which are being eroded daily, when actually we're moving closer each day to their locked down autocracy. Duck, you suckers.


David - Ottawa
said

The only way the Cons can ensure they stay in power is to ensure that the truth of how they are destroying Canadian society is kept hidden or destroyed.One way they are doing this is to make sure no valid statistics about Canada can be compiled, and therefore keep Canadians ignorant of the facts.


Spence in Ontario
said

Why am I not surprised that the Cons want to selectively cut the budget for an agency that they dislike and which complained about part of their illogical agenda? Honestly you'd save more money by reinstating the long form census than you would by trimming Stats Can's budget by $7 million.


terryjan100
said

Although the long form census is an important tool, it is also a manipulative pain in the ass when, it comes at a bad time when everyone involved is working just to make ends meet. The threat of possible jail time for not fulfilling this waste of personal time without money form gets anything but honest responses. People simply throw any answer to the questions just to get it out of their way. We can all thank our various forms of Government for this situation , because as "ordinary" Canadians, we do not have the luxury or disposable income to entertain our nosey leaders for personal information. Democracy? Or Dictatorship? Just my opinion.


Arne
said

There are a lot of silly surveys done by StatsCan. The information is not used and usually the end result is the information being sold to marketing companies. If we put a stop to StatsCan's ability to sell info to marketing companies to profit their department, they would probably start focuing on proper surveys which would be of value to Canadians


Collin
said

One of my favorite lines is this: "There are three kinds of lies in this world, lies, dammed lies and statistics."


Bert
said

Surveys do nothing but waste tax dollars. They don't put food on anybody's table except the gov't employees. Have companies pay full price for these surveys and you would not hear so much crying. And stay out of my private affairs.


Martin Ouellette
said

Seven million dollars is an exorbitant amount to spend on ensuring the equal distribution of services in this country. That's a whole 1/20th of the cost of one of our precious new obsolete fighter jets to keep those scary Russians off Baffin Island, 1/171st of the amount spent on our wonderful G8/G20 experience, and almost SIX TIMES the amount spent on the fake lake.


Shane
said

This government has no idea of what it's doing, the private sector has been taking wage cuts for the past two years, Stockwell Day gives the public sector a raise in wages to cut services. The neocons are making EI easier to get so it looks like the government would rather have people on EI & welfare than have them working. The neocons' new census is going to cost us millions more for less information. These clown have not a clue & don't do what the public wants. Disgusting.


Ed in Alberta
said

Good ol' Stevie Boy... if you can't chop off their heads, cut 'em down at the knees. When is the Canadian public going to wake up and realize how some of our valuable institutions are being decimated at the hands of our "most revered and loved leader"?


Big A
said

Anyone who has taken a course at any level, of numbers and stats, knows that you can take a series of results and skew them in any manner you wish. The answers are dependent on how the question is posed. This is a complete waste of public funds.


IslandMan
said

Stevie is looking for more money for more useful items like Fake Lakes?


billwjames
said

Ratchet---ratchet---ratchet to the Christian right.Ratchet and clank the tools of destruction.


Will
said

A few points that a rational person would consider BEFORE blindly attacking the conservatives: 1) StatsCan will recieve the funding they are complaining about not seeing yet, in the new fiscal year-anyone who has ever dealt with governments knows how that works. 2) less than optimal autimation? You have an IT budget outside of the the operating budget, exactly WHAT are you using it for? Do we need to do a compliance audit on your accounts? 3) For far too many years STASCAN has been unaccountable to anyone, running surveys for every special interest that asks. STASCAN has only one mission: to do the national census. That means collecting specific data for government, not anyone else. That means reporting on population demographics (age, ethnicity, language, gender, geographic location, and any other RELEVANT factor required by government), not collecting data on buying habits, opinions on products. etc etc etc. 4) Like many government agencies that "grew" unchecked under liberal administrations, STATSCAN is bloated and inefficient (not that government is efficient but this is worse by far). It is run by Public Service mandarins who think that they are the government when they work for the government. There is a difference and if they can't see it, then it's time for them to go. Thank you for your attention, we will now return you to your regularly scheduled round of Harper-bashing, whining, moaning, and dripping.


Mike Grant
said

we are at serious risk of eroding the quality of our statistics to unacceptable levelsExactly what Harper wants to do you can't report on what you can't see,now watch the poor disappear and the unemployment numbers become pure spin, ......oh wait that's happening already.


Dean in Abby
said

Keep on cutting gov't departments. I love it. Government is too big and cumbersome anyway. We have buildings full of bureaucrats who do what? Let's trim the numbers to something manageable and get rid of the special interest groups who lobby all of these excess gov't employees. Oh ya, get rid of that useless Senate and all of the associated people employed there too. We elect our leaders and I object to having unelected people decide what the people I voted for can or cannot do. Not to mention all of the perks these people get at my expense.


Brina
said

This fits perfectly with the premise that the "end time" is near. The dinosaurs in Ottawa think our world is going to end shortly so there is no need for this sort of information...especially the climate change information.Ask Stockwell Day.

Peter in MB
said

I can see that the conservative haters do not take a day off. Anyway Stats Can is useless at the best of times. You can manipulate stats to say anything you want to. Take Crime for example, stats can say that crime is down. But the police on the street say that crime has increased. The only reason that crime is down is because people are not reporting them and when they do the courts let the criminal off with just a warning so therefore no guilty verdict was delivered and no crime happened. Take the grey hound bus slaying! Vince lee was found not criminally responsible. There we NO murder conviction so as fair as Stats can is concerned there was No murder. Id like to see the all liberal (Neo Con haters) and StatsCan Try to explain that to Tim’s family and say that he was not murdered!!! Im sure his family will have a few choice words for you!

dcg
said

Statistic Canada is a waste of money. Let private enterprise do the surveys.


GHW
said

I like government run, basic services like health care but do not like big government or politically motivated special interest groups running my life. Canada is currently a fairly healthy balance of this and these cuts look like a good move to me. For the most part this government has done a good job so far and I continue to support them.


Shaun
said

Once again Harpers minions do his bidding to satisfy the paranoid big government delusions of his western Neocon masters..despite the advantages of understanding exactly what is going on with the demographics and economy to effectively manage available resources. Frankly the only Big Brother in this country is Harper and his masters with their "truth speak". Wake up Canada before it's too late!!!!


JayRoc
said

The more I see, the more I am convinced that Stephen Harper uses the novel "1984" as his game plan. Control information and you control the minds of people. Enough with the control freak! Stephen Harper has to go. Or, should we just give in and become the 51st state as he's always wanted???


Gary in Alberta
said

StatsCan has a function, they need to be there. But the waste within the system is absurd. My brother was a "target" of one of their surveys, in which they were requesting WAY too much confidential information, such as when he last worked, the exact amounts on his paychecks, etc. When he asked why, they said they needed the information and it was required. Required? That information for the most part is already on file with Revenue Canada. But they kept insisting. He kept refusing, they kept calling back.

After being harassed by this agency for over a year, he was finally able to speak to a supervisor and he told them to stop calling. StatsCan can NOT force you to take part in these surveys, but they will continue to demand that you do. It took another 3 more calls to supervisors before they finally gave up.

Doing bullying tactics and demanding information and saying you are required to comply, when you are NOT required to comply, is an abuse of process by this agency. It's about time it got cleaned up and the huge waste of taxpayer dollars is eliminated.


Prof. Pye Chartt
said

Poor Statistics Canada...having to suffer budgetary cuts, and being forced into greater operating efficiency and efficacy in such a dispassionate, business-like manner. How cold and mean. My heart weeps. (Undoubtedly, Prince Munir Sheikh, the former de facto ruler of Statistics Kingdom, who, with righteous indignation, quit his royal ivory tower post when democratically elected government representatives mustered the audacity to impose changes upon his bureaucratic regime, must cry in his cornflakes each morning. "How dare they!") The partisan "outrage" over the planned demise of the long-form census, or any modification of StatsCan's holy operating bible, is comprised solely of hollow rants and self-interested diatribes.

Tryon
said

It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of statists! About time someone took the wind out of these 24/7 inquisitors. They came to my door repeatedly (after barraging me over the phone and mails) threatening me with their "it's the law, Sir" but I refused to comply or as they put it, "cooperate," with their hokey survey. Now all those agents can think about getting a real job producing something other than intimidation. Stick it up your can, Statscan!


jim from manitoba
said

so whats the big deal ctv about those cuts, while the liberals were in power under golfball jean and flagless paul they made deep cuts to ei, the military, etc. etc.

Stats Canada BS
said

If Stats Canada was doing it's job properly, why has the public been in the dark over the abuse of our Combat Veteran's by Veteran Affairs? If the Long form census is supposed to protect Canadian values, where is the neutral polls on Veteran care? Why do we allow Veteran Affairs to judge it's own programs... Of course they are going to give there own programs rave reviews, and twist any polls from our Veterans, total conflict of interest! Stats Canada took care of stats for big business, not for everyday Canadians or Vets! A politician/goverment bureacrat sees his family every day. A deployed soldier: once in six months. A politician/goverment bureacrat flies commercially. A soldier: C130. A politician's/goverment bureacrat pension is not reduced. A soldier: clawed back at 65. The politician/ goverment bureacrat enjoys an expense account. The soldier: must justify extra rations. The politician/goverment bureacrat vows to defend his coun......try. The soldier... makes sure he keeps that promise.


Bob,Calgary
said

Well the left wing bloggers so far seem to outnumber any support for the government on this one. I'm now awaiting the wisdom of the usual gang led by Wendy and closely followed by Reece and Samual. The first thing about this story that drives me nuts is the fact that the government settled with the public service unions for a 5.3% increase over 3 years. These powerful PS unions will be the death of us all because they keep driving up the cost of running the country with increases that are not justified; their numbers keep increasing and the projected cost of their ironclad pensions has become unsustainable. I yearn for a government that will take the bull by the horns and finally get a handle on PS costs. The taxpayer cannot support the balloning cost of the public service which increases inexorably whether we are in boom or bust.

Steve G
said

Without quality statistical data, Stephen Harper can join Stephen Colbert in the "March To Keep Fear Alive"


CMQ
said

Instead of taking aim at Harper here and giving the former head of Satas-Can absolute credibility take a step back and recognize something important. Over the years many services and industries became bloated and created high paying jobs that were not always needed just because the economy was good. Now that things are tighter we do need to take a second look at who is doing what and for how much. Government has always become bloated over time this is nothing new. I beleive if different Government agencies both on the national and provincial level were looked at we would see quite a bit of waste and could save money. Not everything is about saving or covering one's backside in politics.


LDM
said

As Business Mgr over the years I used to get these usless forms to complete. Sure I did them but were they accurate???. Most are a complete waste of time...just people shuffling paper


Jerry in Calgary
said

What is so special about StatsCan during these difficult, trying and uncertain economic times that are forcing people of all facets of life to make cutbacks.....that should not also apply to StatsCan? How many more other areas of government that could and probably should be under the microscope for potential cutbacks? There is no denying that our charities are suffering from lack of all kinds of support from our communitties who themselves are also suffering. So my heart bleeds absosutely nothing for StatsCan. Give them "BAREBONES" neccessaties...............just like the many Canadians who are learning to do without and with less. Maybe if the governemnt can start being more responsible with "OUR tax monies" then perhaps it could start feeding the 1 out of every 4 children who live in poverty right here in Canada. Its kinda of hard to feed starving Canadian children with "statistics"....isn't it?


Scott_G
said

I always saw Statscan as a Money cow for Liberals who wanted to employ all their relatives.
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The bigger and bigger they could make it, the more jobs they could create that do almost nothing, but water down our productivity and raise our cost of living.
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If we could cut out the waste and let people get real jobs making good product, we could have more money in our pockets, lower taxes and be able to afford to buy an electric car.
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CUT the waste please.


viral venus
said

This is more typical of how government ends programs and ministries it does not like or respect - just starve them for dolllars and they simply can no longer do their work. I was a bit surprised when Harper came straight out when eliminating the long form census and admited it was primarily due to core conservative ideology (ie an inate fear of government especially regarding posession of sensitive information - a somewhat deserved concern as the ongoing veterans affairs debacle would indicate). That said, how wlll any services be properly apportioned to Canadians of no useful information can be gathered by StatsCan? Will all service and programs dollars simply be funneled on the whim of individual ministers without statistical data to back up their claims that this is an effective and appropriate allocation of our tax dollars? That is a prospect I find vastly more distasteful than government collecting detailed, acurate albeit sometimes intrusive statistical information.


Alethia
said

32,000 Jedi Knights in the last census really inspires confidence in the statistics don't you think?


Hal
said

The 2009/2010 Statscan budget is $511,348,393!.These guys are crying when they have to take a $7M cut or like 1%? Get a life.Since we no longer have the long form they should take a 10% cut and they can do that by laying off staff like private industry has had to do.


reece
said

I simply want to say to the minority of Canadians that dared vote for the dude named Steve, ummm.....where is his legacy?? Steve is wasting the little time he has politicizing everything and anything. But at the end of the day, he will leave as the most unremarkable PM the land has ever seen. Even Mulroney has more to show for his time in office despite the fact that he created so much division in this country. As for Chretien, there arent enough characters permissable in this post to list his accomplishments and legacy. Harper spends his time scheming and plotting and muzzling. What a wasted opportunity! I can see it now, when the conservatives decide to take harper out, the man will go on speaking tours to tell the world what a lasting impression he left on Canada. Ummmm....yeah, the rhetoric will continue in forums in Alberta where the likes of Sarah Palin and Bush draw big crowds.


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